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РАЗДЕЛ B [ pretty hate machine / down in it/ head like a hole / sin ]

B:1 ''В буклете напечатаны слова песни, а в самой песне некоторых слов нет!''

Со слов Трента:

''Я написал слова, которые я ну никак не мог пристроить в песню. В буклет они включены просто потому, что они мне нравятся и могут быть интересны остальным.''

B:2 ''Что изображено на обложке альбома 'pretty hate machine'?''

Опять же, приходится цитировать Трента:

''Hа обложке альбома 'phm' фотография лезвий какой-то турбины или что-то в этом роде, они перевёрнуты вертикально и смотрятся как рёбра.''

B:3 "Какая разница между европейским и американским релизами 'hlah' и 'sin'?"

Американская версия 'hlah' содержит 4 ремикса песни (slate, clay, copper, и soil) и инструментальный трэк 'you know who you are', 3 ремикса 'down in it' (shred, singe, и demo), и 2 ремикса на песню 'terrible lie' (sympathetic и empathetic). Британская пластинка содержит всего 3 трэка: slate и copper ремиксы, и один ремикс, который не был включён в американский вариант: 'opal mix'. Британский релиз сингла 'sin' вышел в чёрной (вместо красной) коробочке, трэки такие же, но в другом порядке.

B:4 ''Какой последний трэк на сингле 'hlah'?''

11-ый трэк на halo 3 (женщина кричит ''let's hear it for nine inch nails — woo they're GOOD!'') взят из выступления nin на Dance Party в Штатах. Женщина является ведущей шоу.

B:5 ''Откуда взяты сэмплы в начале песни 'get down make love'?''

Шон Бивэн:

''Я считаю, что сэмпл из 'get down make love' взят из шоу кабельного телевидения 'Video Psychotherapy'... Этот и ещё один сэмпл из японской порнухи были добавлены в Чикаго трентом и Элом Йоргенсоном (Ministry). Я же просто записал трэк, а сэмплы были добавлены в ходе микширования.''


РАЗДЕЛ С [ broken / fixed ]

C:1 ''Какая разница между всеми релизами альбома 'broken'?''

'Broken' был издан в нескольих форматах:

a. 5'' CD с 6 трэками, с вложенным 3" CD с бонус-трэками.
b. 5'' CD с 6 нормальными трэками, трэки 7-97 длились 1 секунду и были 'пустыми', трэки 98-99 были бонус-трэками.
c. 5'' CD с 6 нормальными трэками, 7 и 8 песни были бонус-трэками.
d. 5'' CD с 6 трэками, без бонус-трэков. Это произошло из-за того, что одна фирма решила продавать 5'' и 3'' диски отдельно, чтобы увеличить доход. Но такого релиза никогда не намечалось.

If, on the other hand, you purchased 'broken' on vinyl, that the EP itself (the six normal tracks) were on standard 12'' vinyl, while the bonus tracks were a black label 7''. Another form of the 'broken' vinyl has tracks 1-6 on side a and the bonus tracks on side b.

Бонус-трэки назывались 'physical' (написанная и сыгранная впервые Adam'ом Ant'ом) и 'suck'.

C:2 ''Были ли выпущены синглы на песни с альбома 'broken'?''

Нет. 'fixed' был издан после 'broken', и содержал ремиксы на песни с 'broken'. 'fixed' был издан, как сингл, но таковым его не считают.

C:3 ''Что значит ''barks and roars: maise'' в буклете альбома 'broken'?''

В песне "physical (you're so), можно услышать лай собаки Трента Мэйс. Лай сильно замедлен. И примерно в 3:49 в песне, если убыстрить запись, можно услышать: ''....ow!.... fucker!...''. Это реакция Шона Бивэна после того, как Мэйс укусила его :)

C:4 ''Является ли 'fixed' лимитированным изданием? Почему?''

Что-то типа того. Основная версия была в оригинале лимитирована. Однако, лимитированные релизы издаются тиражом в 1000-2000 копий. 'fixed' же был издан тиражом более 50,000 копий.

There are a few theories as to why 'fixed' is limited. One holds that 'fixed' was kept limited in order to not interfere with the MTV-inspired success of 'broken', and will be re-issued in about a year as a non-limited. It is now around import-wise. Also, collectors LOVE limiteds. Also, maybe they just thought it wouldn't sell well. It was also just a ''single''. All singles have limited runs.

C:5 ''Чем отличается импортная версия 'fixed'?''

Well, the import version CD is printed with a few more copyright notices, etc.. and the color used is a light bluish type paint. In contrast, the domestic version was printed with less copyright notices on the CD, and the N is a cool shiny blue.

C:6 ''Кто делал ремиксы на 'fixed'?''

Coil remixes 'gave up'; Jim G. Thirwell (he's also the voice on MTV Sports) remixed 'wish' into 'wish (remix)' and 'fist fuck'; trent reznor, chris vrenna and Butch Vig remixed 'suck' and 'last' into 'throw this away'; PK remixed 'happiness in slavery'; reznor, vrenna and a slew of others mutilated 'happiness in slavery' into 'screaming slave'

C:7 ''Откуда композиция 'i could feel that way too'?''

The quote (found half way through 'fixed's' 'fist fuck') ''I could feel that way too... I bet you will someday'' is sampled from the musical Show Boat. Kathryn Grayson as Nolie Hawks and Ava Gardner as Julie LaVerne were the actresses, and this scene occurs about 28 minutes into the movie.


РАЗДЕЛ D [ the downward spiral / march of the pigs / closer ]

D:1 ''Почему так долго?''

Со слов Трента:

''Мне становится противно, когда со всех сторон меня спрашивают, 'Ну где там новый альбом уже?' Эй, я же блин не умер. Просто для этого требуется много времени. Nirvana может быть и выпускает пластинку раз в две недели. Это прекрасно. Но я это не практикую. По-моему, каждая песня требует особого подхода. There are no constants except maybe that I'll sing it. But are the rhythm tracks going to be played or sequenced? Are they going to be real, fake, machines, drums, sounds, car doors slamming? It's not a simple matter of yelling out chords to someone across the room and starting the tape machine. It's a different situation. I'm not saying that makes my record any better than theirs. It's just a different set of parameters.''

D:2 ''Есть ли синглы на песни с альбома 'tds'?''

'the downward spiral' имеет 2 сингла на сегодняшний день: 'march of the pigs' и 'closer to god'. Оба сингла выпущены в виде aмериканского и eвропейского изданий, без изменений в трэках, но кое-какие изменения есть:

Both european CDs come in 2-CD sets, with each CD sold separately, and the Euro 'closer' has no halo number.

'big man with a gun' was included in the Euro release of 'motp'. The cover art for disk one is red/pink like the American, but disk two has blue cover art.

The Euro 'closer' is similar to the American except for the cover art, in which the Euro cover has a larger, 'opened' millipede as opposed to the American's smaller, 'closed' millipede.

Also is the follow up album, 'further down the spiral'. Check out section E for information

D:3 ''Что шепчет Трент на 'mr. self destruct'?''

По мнению Шона Бивэна, Трент шепчет 'i am an exit' сразу после слов ''you let me do this to you''


РАЗДЕЛ E [ further down the spiral ]

E:1 ''Что такое 'further down the spiral'?''

It's the follow up album to 'the downward spiral', much like what 'fixed' was to 'broken', this album consists of 11 remix tracks. The UK version has 10. See section E:3.

E:2 ''Где их скрытые 'erase me's?''

If you listen to track eleven ('erased, over, out') in fast forward, you will hear Trent screaming 'erase me' over and over. Also, on track 6 ('eraser (denial; realization)') he says it twice: once at the beginning, and then again once toward the end.

E:3 ''В чем разница между halo 10 и halo 10v2?''

Version 1 была американским релизом, в то время как version 2 была UK/Japan релизами. UK version содержит 4 трэка отличающихся от американской: 'heresy (version)', 'ruiner (version)', 'self destruction, part three' and 'hurt (live)'. Первые два трэка Чарли Клоузера; последние — живая запись использовавшаяся в видеоклипах с одноименными названиями.

Another difference is production. The American version was packaged in a jewel, on a glossy disk. The UK version was packaged in a cardboard sleeve on a lower quality, low gloss CD. Apparently the Japanese version has the same track listing as v2 (and indeed has v2 on the disk) but has been released with a bonus track — 'reptilian' (just as 'tds' in Japan has 'dead souls' as a bonus track). The packaging is cardboard, same as the UK, but the disk is a better quality, glossy type.

E:4 ''Когда были релизы и на каких форматах?''

Halo 10 was officially released May 23, 1995 on all the standard formats: Vinyl, CD, and Cassette. However, most stores did not get it until a week later.

E:5 ''Откуда композиция 'falls wanking to the floor'?''

About 4:30 into 'self destruction, part two' you hear David Bowie singing 'falls wanking to the floor'. This is a sample from the song 'Time' off his 1973 album ''Aladdin Sane''.


РАЗДЕЛ F [ дополнительная ninформация ]

F:1 ''Был ли альбом halo 00?''

No, this is a bootleg. And it's not worth the price when you can get one of the 2 tracks on WaxTrax! 'The Blackbox' (Trent/Al Jourgenson's cover of Black Sabbath's classic 'Supernaut') (See section H:2 for info on where else to get these songs)

F:2 ''What is this plain-looking CD that claims to be Halo 10?''

You probably have the promo CD for either 'Piggy' or 'Hurt'. These were two promos that were put out with halo numbers on them.

F:3 ''Почему так сложно найти американский 'Closer'?''

Well, they are out of production in America. You can still get the imported, double CD set fairly easily though.

F:4 ''Что представляют собой Fisted Box Set и FTDS Box Set?''

The Fisted Box Set is just a cheaply made bootleg. It has a cheap t-shirt, some cheaper buttons, and some still in-print cd singles. Everyone who has bought it, even the most die-hard nin collector, has said it's a major waste of money. This also can be said for the FTDS box set, an overpriced tin can which contains Halo 10v2 and 3 cheaply made buttons (n,i,n).


РАЗДЕЛ G [ nine inch nails videos ]

G:1 ''Информация о каждом официально выпущенном видео''

::: ''Down In It''

Down in It, Trent and Co.'s first video, for some reason is never shown on MTV in its original form. See, in the original video, Trent falls off the building he is walking on, and is shown dead, apparently for a few days. Anyway, this video somehow got into the hands of the FBI, who spent a few weeks looking for the makers of this 'SNUFF FILM' as it was thought to be when it was found. Ironically enough, Trent (the dead guy) was also in hiding, recording 'Broken' under false band names so TVT wouldn't know what he was doing. The censored version is pretty much the same thing, with the scenes of 'dead trent' taken out.

::: ''Head Like a Hole''

A 'live' video in which the band is in a cage-like stage. Toward the end the band is overtaken by the surroundings, resulting in an upside-down suspended Trent. This video was released in 2 versions: one being the standard, and one being the Flood remix.

::: ''Pinion''

DATE RELEASED : Feb. 1992
DIRECTOR : Peter Christopherson
Pinion is what Alternative Nation ripped off. It basically starts off with a toilet being flushed, then you follow the flushed water down the plumbing until it gets to the mouth of a bound man being tortured.

::: ''Wish''

ДАТА РЕЛИЗА : Feb. 1992
DIRECTOR : Peter Christopherson
Wish is another 'live' video, this one is in an elaborate caged-in 'stage' in which the audience is trying to get to the band through the cage. At the end of the un-edited version, they finally break through and get Trent.

::: ''Happiness in Slavery''

DATE RELEASED : 1992
DIRECTOR : Jonathan Reiss
This video has never been seen on MTV for very obvious reasons. The video contains a man (Bob Flanagan -- READ: Section G:3) being tortured to death by his own free will. At the end, Trent comes in for his turn. It is a must see video, shot all in black and white.

::: ''March of the Pigs''

DATE RELEASED : March 1994
DIRECTOR : Peter Christopherson / Trent Reznor
March of the Pigs was a very low budget, thrown together live performance of the track. Very Good video.

::: ''Closer''

DATE RELEASED : June 1994
DIRECTOR : Mark Romanek
Closer was nine inch nails' 'breakthrough' video. Much of it was filmed on old 1920s' file Trent acquired. It was put out in 2 versions: MTV's censored with 'scene missing' in place of some of the more explicit shots, and the uncensored version

::: ''Burn''

DATE RELEASED : August 24, 1994
DIRECTOR : Hank Corwin / Trent Reznor
Burn is a video for the soundtrack of 'Natural Born Killers', the video contains many scenes from the movie, and Trent singing in a white tee-shirt and jeans.

::: "Hurt"

DATE RELEASED : March 1995
DIRECTOR : Simon Maxwell
Hurt is nine inch nails' most recent video. It is a live video, shot in Omaha/Dallas (See Section G:4). The backdrop contains footage of rapidly decaying animals, predators, and old World War II footage.

Apparently the video for "Sin" was not released because of some more TVT legal problems. The video was released to certain dance clubs though. A long-form video of 'Broken' (See G:2) was made by Trent and Peter Christopherson.

G:2 ''The Broken Movie, Oh My God''

Yes, that is the common first reaction to this film. Trent Reznor made this with Peter Christopherson for the 'Broken' EP. The film shows a kidnapped man being forced to watch nine inch nails videos while being graphically tortured and killed by a masked madman.

Why was it never officially released? According to Trent, he didn't want the press on his ass trying to get him to explain it. Plain and simple.

And NO, it is not real. It was filmed to look like a snuff film, which apparently worked very well considering how many people have asked if it was real or not. Score one for Trent/Peter.

G:3 ''Насколько реален 'Happiness in Slavery'?''

The late Bob Flanagan was a rather famous S&M performance artist. He had done stuff much worse than that shown on 'HiS'. In fact, pretty much the only thing that was fake on the video was when he was actually killed. Note: Bob Flanagan recently succumbed to Cystic Fibrosis, the disease from which he suffered since childhood. He was a great man who contributed a lot to Cystic Fibrosis research. Read about him in the book 'RESEARCH: Bob Flanagan'

Yes: That penis/nipple pulling/testicle clamping is all real.

G:4 ''На что было похоже первоначальное видео 'March of the Pigs'?''

According to a cameraman who works on NIN videos:

''...I'm not talking about the video where it's just one shot, one take, live recording in the 'white' room video, I worked on the one by Peter Christopherson.... You'll have to excuse me because it was a real real long time ago since I worked on it... We shot it in two days around the end of January 1994. The thing was, I don't think we shot everything we were supposed to... you see, there was supposed to be a third day of production... never happened! What we did shoot was stuff with the entire band (not just Trent) in various 'dark' situations. Essentially trashing instruments and other items along the way. We did a lot of 'dutch' angles, a lot of fast-paced stuff ... all in all, to me, it seemed like an angry, aggressive, Evil Dead II meets Hellraiser mini-movie... a lot of hanging chains and always a watered-down set ... but, I don't know if it was ever cut together, or if it is in somebody's closet somewhere...''

G:5 ''Где было снято видео на песню 'Hurt'?''

The video for 'Hurt' was recorded before the show in Omaha, Nebraska on February 13, 1995 and Dallas, Texas on February 11, 1995. Some concert-goers were let in a half hour or so sooner to be the audience. Apparently the reason for this is to keep the audience noise to a minimal level, especially considering that in concert 'Happiness in Slavery' and 'Eraser' are before 'Hurt', and this makes for one wild/loud crowd. Why is he wet in the video? He probably doused himself with water.

G:6 ''Почему не было снято видео на ''Piggy''?''

Welp, According to Trent:

''We tried to make a video for Piggy, but all the directors I talked to... their ideas just *sucked*''

G:7 ''Существует ли видео 'Sin'?''

Trent's been quoted saying that they did make one, but that TVT fucked it up so bad with censoring that he took the tapes home, and never bothered with the video again. Another rumor going around is it was released to some clubs for awhile.

According to Senor Homepage himself (Jason Patterson):

''...i asked him about this -- he said they can't find the sin video... they've looked for it but have lost it.''


РАЗДЕЛ H [ the imports (bootlegs) ]

H:1 ''Что представляет собой бутлег (bootleg)?''

On average, an import (bootleg) is an album pressed (CD/LP) in a foreign country (Italy, Germany and England are common imports) to get around the copyright laws. I don't know exactly why they can get away with it, but imports often have copyrighted material (be it a live show, rare recorded songs, and sometimes full length recorded albums). Bootlegs range in quality from soundboard (when the soundman lets the bootlegger record directly off the soundboard to make a near perfect sounding recording) to low quality crowd recordings (some guy in the audience with a cassette recorder). Some bootlegs are excellent and make great additions to your nin collection. Some are total rip-offs, which brings us to the next topic...

H:2 ''Какие из бутлегов стоит приобрести?''

In my opinion, there are 2 main imports that are well worth buying: 'Purest Feeling' and 'Demos and Remixes'.

::: 'Purest Feeling' is a full length album of demos for 'Pretty Hate Machine' recorded by Trent. It is unknown how these demos got out, but they make a great addition to any collection. PF also contains 2 unreleased tracks: 'Maybe Just Once' and 'Purest Feeling'. Some people hate these songs, some love them. You decide. Another thing about PF is it has the original lyrics to 'Ringfinger'. (see section B:1 for more info)

::: 'Demos and Remixes' is another compilation of rare/unreleased tracks. These include the original 'Supernaut' (Trent's unaltered vox) and 'Suck' live (which cover the infamous Halo 00 (see section F:1)), and 'Twist', the original 'Ringfinger'. Also on this disc is the Go-Go Mix of 'Head Like a Hole' (referred to as the Opal Mix on the UK HLAH single), and -- you guessed it -- demos and remixes of PHM songs. A good quality import.

2 other decent imports that come to mind are Rusty Nails 1 and 2 (Non-Stop mega mixes of NIN songs, worth the price of a used import maybe).

As far as the live stuff is concerned, there are so many out there that there is no room to list it all here. Definitely check out the Import page (See section H:4) before you buy any live recordings so you don't get screwed into buying a shitty sounding CD.

H:3 ''А какие не стоит?''

The main imports to avoid are crappy sounding live shows. Always check the import page (See section H:4) before buying any live recordings. Other imports to steer clear of are Purest Feeling II, Halo 00, and Slaves (to name the first 3 to come to mind).

H:4 ''Где достать побольше информации о бутлегах?''

The place to go for bootleg reviews, track listings, dates, and even order numbers is gladstone.uoregon.edu/~cek/nin_imports.html This page replaces the older bootleg list that Jerry maintained called 'Seething Animosity'. It contains everything that the old page had and more, and it pretty much remains ''the best source of NIN imports on the net.''

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